I went to the old Cliffhouse in San Francisco brfore it burned down for the second or third time. They had on display an old steam powered motorcycle,circa 1909, which they claim was capable of speeds over 90 mph. Talk about loud and hot. that musta been sumpin. Also when I lived in Felton,Ca., there was an old narrow gauge steam engine that took passengers up and down a hill. I never even saw the thing but you coild hear it chugging up the hill, changing gears and making all kinds of train sounds. $1000? really. Every copy of MSWORD ive gotten, came with the os or was otherwise free. But you see my buget is geared to eventually create my own company, and I can't afford to upgrade a product which does not produce 3d output. I have the features I NEED in bryce 3 and until they come out with the features I want, I ain't buying. Besides bryce is low on the list. Lightwave,Carrera,Poserpropack,mike and vicki,tailor, just to mention a few are ahead of bryce.($over 1000 )