well, i've ripped half the lens off by now. Problem: Me thinks the other half is actually part of the camera body... i might have to take it to a friend's house to get it sawed off. also slightly bad. I wrecked the shutter somewhere along the lines of smashing the lens and body. Means I wont be able to press a button for shutter release... just mean I'll have to do the whole "slip cover" thing i guess. I will persist tho, me wants a pinhole cam that'll expose to negatives that wont cost me any money. lol, poor little old electro 35, how we hated thee so...