EA, this might have been continued on the thread in the copyright forum. and 3d cafe had the readme on the site rather than in each download, no reditribution allowed, without written consent. same as most modelers put on thier free and sale items. maybe the Renderosity staff saw this thread and pulled it. they did post that the free stuff will be gone through for exactly this type of concern, and requested that they be contacted about it. Jaqui