soulhuntre, I realy think you are misunderstanding the intent of this thread, noone claims that ILM is using poser for high end production work, they are just getting a kick out of the fact that a company which does so much leading edge CG production would utalize poser in any aspect of their production, It is not a "spurious claim" the use was quite spacificly spelled out in the posts. I for one find it interesting that a company with such resources uses at any level a graphics program which I prize for my own creative work.