I am not sure about the bottom smacking, but I am 100% certain that if radart were here he could leave you all in morphing dust. One thing about radart, he could morph anything into ANYTHING with some persistence, and in amazing time too; unfortunatly for radart, the poser continuoum decided, (rather quickly too), to go Vickie/Mike and transparencies thus preferring the effectuals of textures rather than the actual results of 'morphing' the meshes themselves, making his caricaturing talents rather obsolete. Attempting to morph a Vickie into Cindy Crawford without a texture to go with it still looks like Vickie Crawford and it's amazing how some textures 'alone' will make just any Vickie look different, but you cannot 'see' this until you actually 'render.' The amazing thing is radart was able to alter the look so one could see the change before any rendering even took place. Radart never did take the time to learn texture making, but I challenge anyone to make a Rhino or Dinosaur into a human-type character using just textures, something radart could do with mere morphs dials and then even conforming human clothes to fit as well. Oh well, he's dead and gone, let's leave him there for the benefit of all concerned ;-) Cheers.