I used MIMIC. I think I should have tweaked his mouth to exagerate opening more, so it is visible. unless I geta real close shot, the mouth is too small to see moving very well. I'm not sure how many people are (un)willing to use Bink. It is twice the quality at half the file size. But people don't think its good cause they never heard of it. How many game makers use avi? Probably none. It's so hatd to keep a avi quality up without heavy file size penanlties. Any opinions/comments? Does Bink scare everyone off?