that explains why my win98se machine crashed whenever I tried to use even a mildly hires texture, I don't miss poser taking the whole system with it on 98se, XP solved that for me, poser crashed the other day for the first time since I bought the new machine 3 months ago, but I had been running it for 9 hrs solid with loads of other programs in the background, oh the joys of having 1Gb of Ram to play with. Rob