Pat, I found all 3 at the links mentioned. The first one just doesn't drape... it flows in a nice arc, but fabric doesn't do that naturally. This is the sort of thing which will require a new mesh. The billowy one billows towards you, and would probably look better in an animation where the motion would be noticeable. I couldn't find either of the ones I had seen before. So, I'm wondering if they were at PropsGuide or 3dCafe. Search under "bloodsong" in freestuff, and you will find a couple of items. The drape prop had a broken link sign, which might be due to his domain name problem. 3dMenagerie has a direct numerical URL, which I wrote down before I started cleaning this room, so it will reappear next week. I hope. Considering the prop as I remember it, and the horse blankets and caparisons, he may be the best person to make an actual curtain-type drapery which looks like velvet. Carolly