gryffnn & peejay, If the situation arises and I can determine that I got the object here, that's what I'd do. Unfortunately I don'tknow where I got all my stuff. I look all over the web. There are wonderful models on some of the sites in Japan but I can't always remember what came from where. I can't always read the readme either, come to think of it. I've started being more careful trying to keep track of things. I even download the thumbnails so I can remember what the thing looks like (yes, I download stuff and sometimes don't install it right away). bloodsong That's what I really needed to hear. I knew that that was the safest way of doing things but I hoped that it was the opposite way (OK to use unless stated otherwise). I've heard that most of the people here are good about giving permission. Kozaburo and his legendary hair come to mind. I have no problem with the thought of paying. I'd be paying for supplies if I were the manufacturer of a tangible product. This is fair, too. Thanks!

Before they made me they broke the mold!
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