not with an attitude, with a lack of concern. ~g~ I don't play fair, I aim to completely destroy what pisses me off, or who pisses me off. the wearing black, doesn't mean anything. I know several Goth's that do not own one article of clothing that is black. I think smerc has to actually post the definition of Goth to be used in the challenge. it isn't as cut and dried as the opening post assumes. ~g~