Don't restrict yourselves to the stereotypical black wearing, pasty faced, pierced young person hanging out in a dark alley. Since we are using poser I would expect a person in the image (but not required), but as eirian implied the setting of the image or "architecture" should lend itself to a gothic image. I hesitate to define the limits of the challenge as that would require an interrogation on my part of eirian and summfox to strictly define the parameters of the challenge. Rather I would put the responsibility on the artist to define for themselves "gothic" and express your definition through your image. If we the viewer understand your "definition" then you have succeeded. Like most popular images in the media and in the renderosity gallery, you can play it safe and persue the common expected path and post a half naked women in black or you can be daring and choose a less expected path and surprise us. The problem with surprises is that not everyone will understand (how many people know that Goth means ancient germanic tribe). And as a result you may get fewer votes, where as a goth pin up is gauranteed to gather attention. smerc