One of the strange things that ALWAYS hits me is these viruses which companies such as McAfee (Previously Dr Solomon too) "FIND" that haven't reached the public - as in the above "not been seen in the wild". If this is the case, then how did they get to know about the virus? I mean, if the viruses haven't been in the public domain (where they would spread rapidly as we all know) they've appeared in a private scenario - ie. must have been close to home for the virus killers yeah? as a personal opinion I've been suspicious of these companies from the start, I mean, if you make a product that kills greenfly, wouldn't a great way to get people to buy your product be to breed and release a load of greenfly?!? Not that I'm implying they would deliberately release a new virus just to sell virus killing software, because I'm sure they wouldn't. But it would be the ultimate in product placement wouldn't it? (",)