that's the second request for an arbor.. so one will definately have an arbor. Genny, I wanna see some renders too. If anyone makes some let me know. BTW anyone interested can see pics using my houses by great artists such as genny, Lyrra, Ladynimue and others at my site http://www.ironhart.us in the gallery. There are no pictures of the cottage in the Gallery.. HINT <---not very subtle. Ironhart