Well, okay, but I've tried a zillion tutorials and it just doesn't seem to work for me. BTW, as far as text editing -- I recommend gvim (www.vim.org) as the best thing to edit stuff like this in. Beats out wordpad by a million miles. Gvim is one of the two standard UNIX programmers choices (eMacs being the other), but it's avilable for Windows too. And you can change your filetype before saving, so that it exports your carriage returns as n instead of rn, thus making it instantly mac compatible.