she's the rough equivalent of p4nude - but with diff geometery. Steve Shanks from Poserworld really likes her, which is why they have some stuff for her. Like Doug said, the evolution of poser has left her and a bunch of other exclusive geomtry folk behind. The only one I regret is the DAZ(zygote) centaur. Hate the face, love the figure. way down at the bottom of my to do list is a character package with morphs and remapping for him - but I may never get aound to it.