So now that Vue is going to import Poser animations I have only this to ask of all of you.... Is Poser a plugin for Vue or is Vue a plugin for Poser or are they doing the 69?

It depends on your point of view.
and what you consider your primary application for your 3D work

in my case Cinema 4DXL is my primary 3D application
and poserpropac serves as a third party character animation plugin.

like MAX and character studio
or lightwave and Messiah

Some poser users may consider VUE their
"landscape plugin"

and the VUE die hards may have my take on it
its all very subjective.

why it is so important what are the tools you are working with? your goal, and the goal of everyone else who wants to make a picture is to make a picture. if it's rendered in poser or in vue or in max... so what? you may even hack your vertex coords in notepad and save it as .obj, or use any 3d-ai-works-only-on-cray-programm, suits me fine... if it's ugly picture that comes out of it, it's ugly. period.

So true aleks!!!
and i can assure that paying clients
dont care what apps you are using
and are totally unimpressed by software feature lists
they just want to see if the final image/animation conveys the message that they are $$Paying$$$ for

hmm...aleks...would the hacking of veritces and save as .obj trick work for saved bryce landscapes, too? and would it allow the material prestes attatched to the surfaces to remain attatched, or is there a way to "crack" a bryce file in notepad, and save it in an importable-to-poser format that would save my bryce textures and such? The main reason I ask is as of yet, I'm too freakin broke to purchase 3DStudioMax, VUE, or any "landscape" programs that export or save in formats poser can import...especially since I keep spending my money on new poser stuff! (the more I look around, the more I find there is to buy for poser, and I HAVE to have it!). I got Poser originally because a friend of mine led me to it when I was bitching about needing living figures for my Bryce landscapes...the ignorant fool thought I'd be able to pull the animations from poser right into Bryce...well, I haven't found a plugin to allow me to import a 3-D animated figure into bryce YET, just .avi, .obj (frozen matrix), and the like ::grumps about know-nothing friends:: so anyhow...if you can point the way to work with what I've got...well, I'll figure it out from there, mate ;)

psychobud, i was just exaggerating ;) i think that there was free vue2 in some magazine or something recently. but i'm afraid that you can't import your figures in that version. i don't know about poser5, but importing landscape in poser is not that easy (if possible at all). and without proper program and/or plug-in i would always go for an rendered poser figure with an alpha channel. big players do it all the time, you know. :)

I think the free version imported OBJ files (among other), so you could export your Poser scene, then reapply textures and render in Vue. The point of the Vue4 PZ3 import is mainly to save trials and tribulations, not to do the previously impossible.

greenlee is just doing a spot of poser bashing again, leave him to his ignorance, he keeps being told poser is for realistic human characters and lightwave is for kettles :) Rob

If you use the Vue4 PZ3 you can not texturing Mike's Eyebrows or Making invisibilly. Therefore i prefer the .obj import. I use Vur or Bryce or Worldbuilder as Landscape plugin to Poser. But all Poser Import Moduls work not perket und you must do alot handwork.

perket = perfect

Where's the Nudity and Violence?

how about greenlee stripped naked and tied to a lamppost and beaten about the head with a wet lettuce? lol j/k Rob

yuck! if it's true that with the beautiful body comes beautifal mind, then his nakedness is violence enough ;]P