The only thing I have against actions is the inability to fade. That doesn't mean I won't get yours-- they are in my cart. My workaround is to do them on an alternate layer which I can then fade transparency to give me even more control over what comes up. Either that, or if they are multiple layered effects, to then drop the effects reload the pict, copy paste, proceed as above. Just wanted to mention that. So those peoplelike me who have been prejudiced against actions know there is a workaround. It also gives you about three times the number of effects. These look fabulous. Emily