Alleycat169 wrote: Uhmm...why? Is it against the Renderosity TOS to discuss Bill Gates and Steve Balmer? Is it against the TOS to point out that the proliferation of email viruses is... [SNIP---8<---] No but it is off topic for this forum. I thought it would be best if we moved the topic ourselves instead of forcing a moderator to do it for us. Alleycat169 wrote: To be blunt nukem, it is impossible to have an interesting conversation without straying off topic from time to time. Or would you prefer this thread to be like this: [SNIP---8<---] Be mindful of your tone, Alleycat169. That bit of sarcasm was unwarranted and unappreciated. Alleycat169 wrote: Nukem, in conversation, discord, disagreement and comparisons are allowed and encouraged. No one is shouting, no one is insulting anyone. Maybe this thread should move to the OT forum, but I can't see any reason to 'shut it off'. I'm just curious why you would suggest that? My suggestion was that we shut it off in this forum. Moving it was what I had in mind, not stopping it. My bad for not making that more clear--- I was multi-tasking at the time and the mind was two steps ahead of the fingers.