Wow is all I can say...I will keep plodding along with my 98SE and Bryce 4/5 until all the bugs will be out of 6 the reasons... 1.I am still a user of Bryce as a Program... 2.I think that it is BS about haveing to upgrade to a different OS...BUT...If we are forced to leave Bryce behind that is not going to be the end of my world I will still use 4/5 as they are excellent programs and the backgrounds you can make are spectacular... 3.I knew that when I started I wanted to go farther and at the time in 99 I was on a one way track of mind so I have been saveing and I bought Lightwave I will be spending more time learning... 3.If COREL wants to slice their own throat then we as a community can only shake thy head and say..." Bummer for us " 4.BUT until the final answer is in I will reserve my judgement...But I am still going to learn Lightwave.... 5.ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY foaming at the mouth knowing that there will be a Bryce 6....dont know about you but I am...Did they get rid of the Rendering Problem????is there going to be a partical system or should I keep going on the Partical system I am developing for Bryce4/5...? 6.All these questions and no answers yet....BUMMER