I have celeron 466 too, with 128 megs of ram and that stupid tool has to be the worst feature of poser. To PhilC, Do I have to get on my knees, if so I am and not above groveling if that helps. I bow before a Master Poser and humbley beg for any guidance and favors thou mightest bestow on this most unworthy, lowest of the lowest, beginner. Thanks again