Yeah for some reason bryce gives me grief about the BMP textures... That and the multi repped plastic ridges, my god. It takes 15 minutes to render... insane for what it is.. They need to redesign Bryce more for the PC, in the pc release. Thanks for the comments. I have a question though. Why can't I save this as an object. Or export it. it's all grouped and all that great stuff. why won't it work?