OK what I'm looking for is what are some of these programs, like Pwizard? I've heard about it but what does it do? and Phi builder? lots of newbys hear about how indespensible these programs are but have no idea what they are or how much they can do, having worked with poser less then 8 months I consider myself a newby, and every time I finaly figure out what people are talking about I hit my head in wonder realizing that if I knew about some of these slick aplications I could do twice the work in half the time.