well, since I'm going to be busy writing a complex suite of programms and not able to have the time for using or making anyhting, doesn't matter what happens with stuff uploaded. won't be having much time for even browsing a forum or two. going to work on my graphics suite for linux instead. btw, the only thing you would have to pay for with it will be plug-ins to be able to use proprietary file types, like pz3's have to protect cl's property by only offering in a secure, pre-compiled format. if I can reach an agreement with cl about this...and adobe, and corel, and all other proprietary file types. ( I'm sure I would have to pay them each a % of each plugin sold that enables using their file type, so would have to charge for them)