Eh, well, I'm new here, but I detect a longstanding issue. Nevertheless, it it my opinion that while one may LEARN while playing with the work of another person, or trying to duplicate it, one should never post it as if it were their own. That is theft and copyright infringement. And all my fracs go in the fractal gallery, post-processed or not. Just tonight I posted some fractal-based art, in the fractal gallery. Unless I use elements that are non-fractal-based, even if it's been through photoshop, which it usually is to give it the sig and to 'frame' it, it's just as much a frac as it was before, IMO. A post-processed frac, but still a frac. After all, if one can use layers in UF, how is that really different from using layers in Photoshop? It's a technicality.