Jim Burton opened this issue on Jun 21, 2002 ยท 87 posts
ChuckEvans posted Sat, 22 June 2002 at 10:29 AM
Tks, IronBear for spending time to answer and explain. With the exception of your item (4)-Personal Preference, I would have to say you have just about stated the obvious. Tho I am not near as talented as most every person in R'City, I do understand the prohibitions on using items based on Coke/Pepsi/Star Wars/comic-based characters, etc. I would disagree on the anime concerns(to a degree) since anime has become a genre. Otherwise, Aiko would be for personal use only. In closing comments to you, I fully understand your lengthy explanation of the love of the char you made and your restriction on it. My remark, however, wasn't dealing with restrictions on those kinds of things. What I didn't understand was restrictions on a table/bookcase/basketball/straw, etc. Common items like that. At the risk of being "pounced on" more than I already have been, I'll say what I think others may be reluctant to say...it's as if people give away some stuff free because they are generous, but not so generous as to allow someone to make money from a render using their "freebie". So, forgetting the Superman chars, the Bud beer bottles, etc., I ask once again, why should someone restrict the use of a pose they made and gave away? Or a pitchfork? Or a flower? Fyre: I appreciate your time, but my analogy was just a bit more common and believable than yours. I've had discussions with lots of people (both here and IRL) and heard plenty of people resort to using outlandish "what-ifs" to try and prove a point when the discussion should really stick to the practical, the probable, and the common examples. I mean, REALLY, just how many people are there out there whose religion would not allow a gift to be used to make money? Applying that to people who restrict "freebies", how many do so based on religion? JeffH: What is wrong with someone profitting from an item given away for FREE? Is that somehow wrong? It certainly doesn't bother some people who give it away for free (in the true meaning of the word). To give a real-world analogy, meaning one that is commonplace and not farfetched, I have put items out for trash in Germany. In Germany, people come by on those special designated days and browse through it on the streetside. They take stuff home and fix it up a bit and sell it. Should I get upset because they got something free and made money off it? After all, by placing it on the street, I gave it away free. In closing, once again (this message...grin), my discussions and questions do NOT indicate and should not indicate I am some sort of pirate. Even my 4 pathetic renders specify everything that I used (usually in more detail than average). Even with a kudo here and there. Also, should hell freeze over and I find myself ever selling anything (meaning about 90,000 members of R'City would have to drop off the face of the earth, I would (1), contact any person whose completely free item I used just to let them know (and make them feel good) and/or (2) contact any person whose item was restricted and request permission to sell a render using their item. Assuming I can locate them, of course. Oh, and one last item for FryeSpiryt: It only takes a few of those loonnnnggggg replys getting "zapped" by R'City before you start to press Ctrl-A and Ctrl-C before posting...grin. (just like I am glad I did with this one...hehe)