Thanks SciFi. ;] Heh heh. Nether.. I started numbering at 2) becuase my fingers ran away with me and I included 1) in the paragraph above it. And I'm lazy. And numerically challenged. grin Talmid - yes on the Lahmborghini model. AS LONG AS you DO NOT include the lamborghini trademark, their logotype, logo, or any of their trademarked symbols on the model etc. As a rule of thumb, on cross-media itms [auto to mesh, gun to mesh, whathaveyou] that's going to hold true. Also as a rule of thumb, if in doubt, write them and ask. Write not email... with a letter and a physical letter in response, you have something for your files to show that "Yes I have permission" or "Yes they wrote back and said we don't care". Automobiles I know about - I used to work for a company in Dallas that made commemorative plaques for colectors cars and exotic cars. The plaque was always acceptable with image or ethced glass representation, or model, but the manufacturers name, logo, logotype, and trademarked symbols had to have permission obtained on each and every make and model. Firearms I know about because Questor and I are involved in a project to track down and model every firearm in the universe and put them in freestuff. grin And Questor has written, phoned or emailed numerous firearms makers asking just those questions and recieved similar answers from many of them, including Walther, Skmith and Wesson, and Winchester. [I believe] You can ask him on specifics. Ah. Sorry Chuck. Gots carried away. g Seriously... reasons for doing it are probably as individual as the number of people posting freebies. Me - I don't put restrictions commercial render use on mine, or on my joint projects with Esh and Styxx. Readmes on my freestuff are generally identical to the ones in my sale items: You just bought the rights to use it in personal or commercial renders, just don't redistribute it, repackage it, repost it or resell it. Keeps it simple for me. Special case conditions are going to be very rare for me. I seriously doubt I'll add many special case clauses like I did on DangerousCurves. Heya Jim.... really can't say much on that. To me, Rosity, 3Dc, 3DArena and Renderotica provide a location for me to post stuff so that people can find it and download it if they wish. It's up to me, as I see it, to make sure the links work, the thumbnails work, that I upload it in the right section, add whatever keywords are needed, and basically do the upkeep such as check the links periodically - including reset tags if they add new categories or terms. As long as I wish to offer it in their freestuff. I will [and have] bitched about a lot of things here, but bitching about them not doing my job for me is one I'll never do. And upkeep on my freebies [and my sales items] is my job, not theirs. Sorry you feel different. I'll miss seeing your freestuff around here.

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