Ron - Amapi looks a bit funny, and the pre-5 versions are lousy at tex'ing and rendering. But who cares - it's an immensely powerful modelling app. Version 4.15 is free (d/l link in the Amapi Forum), and the only thing it lacks is OBJ capability. But if you export as LWO you can use Anim8or or LithUnwrap to convert to OBJ. TrueSpace is also getting cheaper in the earlier versions (I still use 4.3 for all my commercial work) - check out www.caligari.com. Whatever you decide on, have fun.