ron, i thought you were w/ me on this...... i thought you had long since figured out how 2 make mor files..... i feel sorry i didnt help you more, i remember how much frustration you had w/ it. but isnt that program awesome ron!!!!! no more code whatsoever. never have 2 touch a cr2 again. i can imagine the relief to the end of the mor file drama, lol. can you make mat files w/ it? just load a cr2, and "work" it, lol......