whattawa ....Of COURSE they should be cocerned with stopping child porn. But things like "Ever known a child who has been molested?" Have nothing to do with it other that to raise the blood pressure, because this isn't about child molestation. The last ruling was based on other rulings before. It's been a continual tweaking process driven by politics that ChuckEvans was talking about. To begin with, the court ruled that sex wasn't obscene. But that the government still had an overriding interest in the child-porn venue, because its interest in the protection of innocent children overrode the freedom issues. But THEN the last ruling came down protecting CGIs under freedom of speech, because the government lost it's abiding interest because there ARE no children involved. But of course we all agree that the exploitation of children is deplorable. No argument there I'm sure. Beav Oh...and you're right, Kattman, the day the burden lies with the defense, we might as well pack up democracy and move away.