Ohh, thank you thank you. I thought it was just me, I think the comments are very helpful! The left eye just got worse and worse the more I tried to deal with it until I think I deformed the whole side of the head; I liked some of the same things but it just did not seem to come together....so thank you. I think I will revise this one and the comments are sooooo helpful....the hair, well that was on the texture map which I did not change, but I did see that from the angle the "hairless" legs became obvious...more to do ....Ken doll, that is it the whole human form is off in such a way that it is not "relaxed"...so I have a lot to do....thanks again