ok, I think have an idea now. I think you all bring up valid points, in that we should follow the paramaters of the challenge, but to a point. the rest is artistic liscence(even if it is supposed to be "realisitic") and tjohn, you're absolutly right: this is about fun. the onlyu prize you get is a digital gif to put on your website, and the right to declare the next challenge. well, we all know who's is going to win, so why don't I tell you all what the next challenge will be? lol! j/k hehe