EricofSD, I didn't know Plant Studio has become GPL free software! I'm downloading my copy right now :) As for Toucan's site, I don't think they've been ripped off as he's selling the higher res models with hi-res maps on TurboSquid. ronstuff - when I first downloaded them I tried everything you mentioned but no dice. I remember running into a similar problem with meshes made in Imagine, .iob files. Even after making them obj's and trying everything they would still render like this. At some point I went back to Toucan's and he said he had been informed of the problems Poser users were having and was modifying them. After redownloading them I found they worked perfectly. I wish I knew what he had done and if anything can be done to all these .iob files I have.