Christ, you know I get really tired of your arrogant, troublesome attitude. You've done your best to be a pain in the ass for a little thing. You insult orphea, then you insult me. "ron...just a side note....wow...you've been around here a long time. i never understood, before, why so many dislike you. but, in this thread....the light came on." And I suppose your contributions to this thread will win friends and influence people. Just do us all a favor, and give it up. Go do something productive. You have a Master's Degree, and you haven't even mastered the fine art of capitalizing your sentences and using punctuation? Wow. *** "i did this research because so many r'osity newbies have read this thread. my reputation means alot to me. i have had my own business for 5 years. i try to be honourable, and fair when dealing with folks, irl, or on the web." You're doing your best to shoot yourself in the foot here.