LOL.... funny topic but you are right, also hairless arm pits, maybe it's just hard to do, since i don't make textures i'm not sure, but looking at the texture in photoshop, it might be hard to get the hair there and have it look right.......... Change of topic, Ron please please do a tutorial on how to make mor files with the new mat edit, i keep getting no morphs found :) and of course there are morphs there