Wodie52 Buy it! It's definately worth it!! Larry, Poser's creator just released a new patch for it and it works better than the installed version of Poser4. Meta is never going to release a new version of Poser because they dumped it for a reason that to this day STILL doesn't make sense. Even if someone does release a Poser5, it won't be for a very long time and there are still folks here that use Poser3. This is one program that never goes out of Style ;-) Anyway, don't feel too bad about asking your question. Everyone here has a strong passion for Poser and therefore no one want's to violate any license agreement. And were all feircely, if overprotectively loyal to its creators. AR