It seems to me like Daz are saying no-one else is allowed to make anything for poser that uses anything of theirs, that's fine while we have posette & dork to fall back on, but what happens when poser5 comes out and all the figures are from Daz? who has the final say in the matter then? I think CL has to take a stand on this as they own the copyright for poser & anything that goes with it. next thing you know Daz will be saying anyone who d/l cooler's banana is breaking the law cause it looks like theirs. Rob