TygerCub: The issue raised by DAZ (originally on the PoserPros forum) was not about the models themselves, but about the MORPHS contained in V2 and M2. According to what I have gleaned from reading all the posts, DAZ feels that anything which conforms to any of the new morphs on V2 or M2 is a violation REGARDLESS of the mesh or the method of creation (even if BOTH the mesh and method are your original work, the result may NOT be distributed). The example they used specifically mentioned using The Tailor to apply corresponding morphs to an original article of clothing (such as a 3rd party generic bodysuit) even though The Tailor does not "copy" the morphs, but creates new morphs that are approximations. They went on to say that The Tailor was only an example, and that ANY method of replicating the morph SHAPE (not the morph code) was an infringement. IE: anything that allows an otherwise original mesh to "fit" one of their new morphed figures is a violation. This is the kernel of the issue after you remove the "smoke screen" of hyperbole thrown at us by DAZ before they retired for the weekend. They were very clear if you read the statement carefully. They simply do NOT want any competition to their own morphed clothing for M2 and V2, and they don't care how "original" the article of clothing is. wdupre: If you read DAZ's statement you will see that they went far beyond making a copy of Yucky2 - they just used that as an example which served their needs because most would agree that a direct copy of V2 IS a violation, and none of us would do it. But they expanded that analogy to include almost any article of clothing (now or in the future) which might compete in GENERAL. For example: DAZ makes a shirt with M2 morphs in it (and a crummy one to boot), then you can NOT make a shirt - ANY SHIRT of any kind or shape (made by any method - current or future) which will fit a M2 or V2 morphed figure. PERIOD Mehndi: Much as I respect you, I must disagree that a "similar shape" cannot be considered a copyright infringement, no matter what the EULA says. DAZ can copyright the mesh, and they can copyright the CODE for a morph - they can even copyright the "likeness" of the body/head textures. But they cannot prohibit approximations or similarities that are independently derived. Of course they can INTIMIDATE us into complying with their selfish whims, but that doesn't make them right.