Ronmolina- go to the PoserPros forum - I can't post the link here as it will just be removed as have other links - The context I am referring to is in a lengthy discussion which followed their original statement which you quoted. But I did make an error when I said "if you read their statement" - I should have said "If you read their statement and their discussion and clarification that follows it." As I said before, I have boiled the issue down to its essence, removed the hyperbole and I have not claimed to quote them directly. I don't even ask anyone to "believe" me. Their statements speak for themselves. If you disagree with my conclusions, quote me something said by DAZ that contradicts them. I have a completely open mind, and even hope that they reevaluate and re-state their position, but this is where it stands for now.