Ronknights - thanks for reposting SKondris statement. Unfortunately most of it is hyperbole and the essence is that DAZ wants to be Accuser, Victim, Prosecutor and JUDGE in all matters. They also want to stifle competition no matter what they say to the contrary. I owned Scifiguy's bodysuit, AND Doug Sturk's Bodysuit AND Michael CloPak 1 and 2 AND the Tailor, But I bought the M2 Morphing Clothing Pack ANYWAY because I thought it had merits of its own. Now I want a refund for the M2 Clothing Pak, not because it is duplicated by something else, but for 3 reasons: 1) because it is INFERIOR 2) because I was mislead into thinking it was conformiing 3) because I am tired of supporting a company that treats me like a criminal BEFORE THE FACT.