"Legume (and maybe another or two of our mods) decided that he wasn't compatible with DAZ and decided to leave us. " This sounds like bulshit. Sorry, russ, but the mormon tabernacle has nevre liked the doc or the doc's friends, so I'm gonna assume that you're lieing. Paul P.S.: Russ: Tell DAZ I have some free siteware running on my home pc if they're interested... What exactly did they buy?