"Since the TOS doesn't seem to protect outsiders, I'll respond to a few points." The TOS doesn't protect corporate entities russ, which is what you and Mehndi now are in association with DAZ. The fact is, I can bad mouth Microsoft or DAZ or PoserPros all day here without having made a single personal attack. I choose not to do so normally as it's counterproductive, but lately I can smell blood in the air and it's making me edgy... Paul P.S.: In case you haven't noticed, russ, you can also bad mouth rosity here, and no one will come after you for that, either. Although a few of us might take hat real personal and all.