I do see what you're saying Russ, I really do, but you've made a deal with the devil. One of the biggest selling points of PoserPros has been the freedom: no locked threads, no bannings, all of that. Maybe you can maintain that under Daz's thumb, but somehow I don't think so. I wonder how long it will be before you find yourself oppressed and feel the need to go start yet another site. And I wonder how many folks will follow you next time. A lot fewer, I'm betting. Daz isn't just another site with its own store. Daz IS a store, period. I think you'll find in the long run that that distinction is going to make a hell of a difference. It's not that I begrudge you the chance to make some money. Hell, I was the one in the "non-commercial" thread that urged you to re-think the idea of only keeping enough money to cover costs, to keep enough to actually make a profit for all of your hard work. But this... "Acquired". Not a parnership. They bought you. If PoserPros was your dream, they bought your dream. That's a hell of a thing to sell. I hope you got a good price for it. The hard truth is that if people had known in the beginning that you were going to end up selling out to Daz, there weren't be so many folks there in the first place. Of course, if there weren't so many folks there, Daz wouldn't have bought it, and... BTW: "Sorry x2000, but anything you know, is also still second hand knowledge. There are many sides to every story and the truth is always somewhere in between." Nope. I've been around longer than you think. Might not always have been so... visible, but I've been around. As far as anything that happened before I joined up, I'm not even thinking about that, because you're right. But I know what I've seen, and this move is totally inconsistent with everything I've heard you say. You may, as you've said, have done it for the best of reasons. I'm not saying you're money-grubbing scum or anything. Well, not really;) But I think you did the wrong thing, one that you'll regret. Your site, your life, your choice. But it still stinks. And that smell is going to follow you wherever you go. Like Paul said, PoserPros is now merely a division of Daz. So much for big ideas, eh? Welcome to the machine. "And did we tell you the name of the game, boy? We call it riding the gravy train!"