ChuckEvans: DAZ "appropriated" PoserPros...they got good and dedicated people with good sense. And a ready-made forum...I don't think Russel and Mehndi "sold out". I think they made a decision that many in their shoes would have made.}}}} You may have struck paydirt Chuck, whether you realize it or not Mehndi...If you had so much sense, you never would have made the "Poopi" remark, right here...back in the old days. My business may be small, but damned if i need any of you. i am reputable. i am honorable. and, you damned well knew my little..."cl" reference to russel meant clown, not "clunt"....i really don't know if he is a "clunt", or not...i don't sleep with him. and, i am concerned, also, about the proposal for the guild...that i was so gung ho for, when you first proposed it. did you put it on a back burner? for now? or are we all gonna wake up one morning to find our creations are worthless because you haven't given them your stamp of approval? after your ever so kind extension of your olive branch to radart, destiny, and, myself...i tried to ignore what had gone before. however, this last bit is way over the top. when you were here, you moderated the copyright forum....you know the rules. you could have given some explanation YOURSELF, early on in the day. no...why???? because, you know in this new bit...Daz...has no legal leg to stand on. they failed to foresee new products...and, hon...if ya snooze ya lose....you can't then, just change the terms of the contract. daz was snoozin' while codetwister was working out his tailer. i did not buy it, 'cause i could FORESEE....some real grey areas of the law on it. Too bad the minds over at daz weren't that sharp...could have saved the whole community alot of anguish. Pop...Pop...Poppi Keep Good ;*)