Ron, I'd read them earlier (if you had paid attention). That is only part of why your "translations" are frivolous at best and misleading at worst. Remember that I answered you that I did not buy The Tailor or any clothing spawned with its help. I am suspicious of anything which comes too cheaply and that affects the work of others. I also stated in the past couple of weeks that I had purchased PhilC's excellent CD on making clothes from scratch. I don't need to steal mesh, or even borrow it slightly... and I certainly read all appertaining documents before investing time in a project. I don't enjoy yelping like a martyr so won't deliberately set up that situation, either. As for the post that you (and almost everyone else in this discussion) overlooked... if you can't trip over a fact in the middle of a mostly empty parking lot, I'm not going to tell you the slot number. Carolly