"Thanks for admitting that all you are doing is attempting to stoke the flames ;) I think that allows us all to dismiss out of hand all that you have said." Thanks for being dismissive, Mehndi... I doubt the rest of us will take your advice and dismiss it as well. And I'm not sure DAZ has higher quality standards... in fact, I'm pretty sure the best texture for Stephanie, Aeris, was released here, and still resides in the Market Place. When it was released, DAZ's textures for their own model sucked completely. In fact, most of them still do. Paul