{{{{however, this last bit is way over the top. when you were here, you moderated the copyright forum....you know the rules. you could have given some explanation YOURSELF, early on in the day. no...why???? because, you know in this new bit...Daz...has no legal leg to stand on. they failed to foresee new products...and, hon...if ya snooze ya lose....you can't then, just change the terms of the contract.}}}} Poppi, I am not trying to be obtuse, but I honestly do not understand what you are clearly angry about. Could you please explain this to me further? What is "over the top"? And what has the fact that I used to moderate the old copyright forum have anything to do with anything happening now? Or to do with DAZ? What was early in the day? I just am not following you here? As to your enquiries on our quality testing guild idea, necessarily due to building and working on PoserPros, this has naturally been put on the back burner for now. Someday I still hope to pursue this dream, since I believe a 3rd party quality seal will be a valuable asset to many brokers who are new and do not have a track record of success and would like a way to show that their stuff is good stuff :)