If you model the mesh from scratch and then just check that it fits Vicki as suggested by thip above, that's not derivative, even if DAZ would like to define it as so. DAZ does not have the power to change copyright law or the meaning of the English language just to suit its business model. ....Thank you, Phantast. I have been peeping something along this line throughout this whole mess...to deaf ears. Maybe it was not till actually testing The Tailor to include in their store that they actually had time to comprehend fully what the tailor did and enabled to happen. Did that ever occur to you all? This occured to me....and, i see them shifting to try and change the rules after the fact. THIS IS NOT LEGAL...however, if i could foresee this hoopla, when the tailor program was introduced, and did not purchase since the transferring of morphs seemed a little legally "iffy"...why did not the great minds who run daz pick up on that as well....? seems to me....okay....you make a mesh, by hand in a modelling app....then, let's say, you made a dress for vicki...you twist your vicki dials and export her into your modelling app...and, hand pull morphs for the breast area... now....you make a whole little package of this sort of clothing....a whole new clothing pack for vicki...and, it can morph to fit small/medium/large/xxlarge vicki chests...coolness...you have lingerie, short dresses/long full, long sleek dresses/shorts/slacks, and a couple of blouses. and, you have some buyers. you would rather not sell through daz, or renderosity...because they would take half of your profits. What is plug ugly about this latest daz move is: they would have EVERYONE believing that anything created, even as a totally new mesh for the m2 figures, must be "okayed" for sale by them...guess what...i take my little clothing pack, and my little vicki that it fits to them, ask for an "okay"...and, of COURSE they are gonna say....you can sell this...but only at our site, or at poserpros. however, the law is the law...sadly folks aren't understanding that if you create a mesh...and you create an original morph/s....that's yours. it does not belong to daz because you made it to fit one of their characters. what is and is not acceptable in their readme is....no redistribution of cr2's in any form. folks may believe daz, though. and, daz will pretty much corner the market, due to ignorance and fear on the part of the clothing makers. that could kill off renderosity, other sites, and independent modellers...and, yes, there is free stuff...too...