Wouldn't it be nice! But you know, as soon as it finally does get released, it'll be a time when I don't have any money. That's Murphy's Law, you know. Always a day late and a dollar short. I just hope they keep the price down and that whatever magic they're performing with it will be worth it. I have fond (not!) memories of when Poser 4 first came out, sometime back in the last century. It was sort of a sneak attack. It just sort of appeared one day when no one was looking, and when everyone rushed right out and bought it, we all found so many flaws in it, the discussion forums were literally boiling over with complaints. So, I'm hoping this looonnnnggg delay in releasing Poser 5, if indeed it really does exist, will be because they're ironing out any glitches and problems to avoid the fiasco that MetaCreations caused last time, by releasing it before it was still an embryo. I want my Poser 5 fully baked this time. Melanie