4th party....they added a clause in their faq#49 about not using shrinkwrap/and a number of modelling functions, rhino has contour, sketch on mesh, and csec curves...but, max and others have clothreyes...etc...well, daz is saying that folks cannot use these modelling methods to create their own original mesh objects for distribution. this was not in their readme at the time of purchase...so, i really know that they can not bind their clients with this new spin on old licensing. however, due to loyalty, morality, and issues of getting in trouble...lol...at that last bit, folks have been upset over this "changing of the rules". then, there are others who thought to make quicky creations with programs like tailor, and distribute them as they would. i did not purchase tailor. i thought it was way cool, but, sort of like really, really "cheating" on the whole creation process.