Oh, Ron... I am indeed quite disppointed in you! It took you more than a full day to wave the TOS. You usually brandish it within mere hours. ::shake head at the phenomenal unreliability of what had been as predictable as sunrise:: Poor Ron is fighting a cold! I have a bit more sympathy for another guy who is typing with a broken wrist. "... take Carolly with you." Gee, I guess you are a bit annoyed at those who see through your games. You remind me of my mother, but she was a professional martyr not some unpracticed amateur, and she was intelligent enough to use language to effect her purpose. Jo-Anne's Fabrics has a special on sackcloth... but you'll have to gather the ashes yourself. Think you can do that, or should we draw you a map of a fireplace... grating and all? Carolly